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I AM THAT >>> Ron > 10/15/2023
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Sunday, October 15, 2023 3:45 pm (California Time)
We are a small group of friends;
together we read some paragraphs in
Nisargadatta‘s I AM THAT
and then talk about it.
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Greetings to One and All!
Ask the right questions…
come to the right conclusions…
Find out what you have not given up…
and give that up…
empty yourself completely…
Stay open and quiet…
that is all…
PeaceĀ Ā PeaceĀ Ā Ā Peace
Chapter 43
Ignorance Can Be Recognized, Not Jnana
Q: Can the jnani convey his experience to the ignorant?Ā
Can jnana be transmitted from one man to another?
M: Yes it can.
The words of a jnani have the power of dispelling
ignorance and darkness in the mind.
It is not the words that matter, but the power behind them. Ā
193
Q: What is that power?
M: The power of conviction,
based on personal realization,
on oneās own direct experience.Ā
193
Q: Many are practicing samadhis
(states of rapturous absorption).
In samadhis consciousness is quite intense,
yet they do not result in anything?
M: What results do you expect?
And why should jnana be the result of anything?
One thing leads to another, but jnana
is not a thing to be bound by causes and results.
It is beyond causality altogether.
It is abidance in the Self.
The Yogi comes to know many wonders,
but of the Self he remains ignorant.
The jnani may look and feel quite ordinary,
but the Self he knows well. Ā
194
Q: Ups and downs in sadhana are inevitable.
Yet the earnest seeker plods on in spite of all.
What can the jnani do for such a seeker?
M: If the seeker is earnest,
the light can be given.
The light is for all and always there,
but the seekers are few, and among those few,
those who are ready are very rare.
Ripeness of heart and mind is indispensable. Ā
194
Q: Can a Guru give realization without words,
without trust, just like this, without any preparation?
M: Yes, one can, but where are the takers?
ā¦Laziness and restlessness often stand in the way
and until they are seen and removed, progress is slowā¦
The majority need some time for ripening.
Sadhana is accelerated ripening.Ā Ā
195
Q: What makes one ripe?
What is the ripening factor?
M: Earnestness of course, one must be really anxious.
After all, the realized man is the most earnest man.
Whatever he does, he does it completely,
without limitations and reservations.
Integrity will take you to reality.Ā
195
Q: Do you love the world?
M: Donāt bottle up your love
by limiting it to the body, keep it open.
It will then be love for allā¦
Get rid of all ideas about yourself,
even the idea that you are God.
No definition is valid.
195
Q: I am tired of promises.
I am tired of sadhanas,
which take all of my time and energy and bring nothing.
I want reality here and now. Can I have it?
M: Of course you can,
provided you are really fed up with everything,
including your sadhanas.
When you demand nothing of the world,
nor of God, when you want nothing, seek nothing,
expect nothing then the Supreme State
will come to you uninvited and unexpected.
195
Q: There must be a way out,
independent of ripening which needs time,
of sadhana which needs effort?
M: Donāt call it a way,
it is more a kind of skill.
It is not even that.
Stay open and quiet, that is all.
What you seek is so near you,
that there is no place for a way. Ā
196
Q: There are so many ignorant people
in the world and so few jnanis.
What may be the cause of it?
M: Donāt concern yourself with others,
take care of yourself.
You know that you are.
Donāt burden yourself with names, just be.Ā
Any name or shape you give yourself
obscures your real nature. Ā
196
Q: All my life I was striving and achieving so little.
I was reading, I was listeningā¦
I gave it up too. I do not read nowadays.
M: Listening and reading became a habit with youā¦
What you gave up is of no importance now.
What have you not given up?
Find that out and give up that.
Sadhana is a search for what to give up.
Empty yourself completely. Ā
196-197
Q: I am tired of all the ways and means and skills
and tricks, of all these mental acrobatics.
Is there a way to perceive reality directly and immediately?
M: Stop making use of your mind and see what happens.
Do this one thing thoroughly. That is all. Ā
197
Q: When I was younger, I had strange experiences,
short but memorable, of being nothing, just nothing,
yet fully conscious. But the danger is that one has the
desire to recreate from memory the moments that have passed?
M: This is all imaginationā¦
Let them beā¦
Your weakness is due to your conviction
that you were born into the world.
In reality the world is ever recreated in you and by you.
See everything as emanating from the light
which is the source of your being.
You will find that in that light there
is love and infinite energy. Ā
197
Q: If I am that light, why do I not know it?
M: To know, you need a knowing mind,
a mind capable of knowing.
But your mind is ever on the run,
never still, never fully reflecting.
How can you see the moon in all her glory
when the eye is clouded with disease?
ā¦Donāt mentalize and verbalize.
Just see and be. Ā
197
Q: Must I see, to be?
M: [Yes] See what you are.
Donāt ask others,
donāt let others tell you about yourself.
Look within and see. Ā
198
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